Mining Incidents

TROY SAND & GRAVEL: 96 MSHA citations Metal/Non-Metal

Troy Sand & Gravel · Surface
Controlled by Dan Clemente
Cropseyville, Rensselaer County, NY  ·  Active
MSHA Mine ID: 3000043

TROY SAND & GRAVEL has $21K in proposed MSHA penalties and $0 outstanding across 2 contested dockets, plus health sampling and the full incident record.

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Fatalities
0
Total incidents
18
Years on record
1988–2025
Latest incident
Dec 2025
Compliance record
MSHA citations since 2003
96
citations
13
significant & substantial
$20,579
proposed penalties
$20,579
paid to date
100% of proposed penalties paid to date, a $0 gap.
Source: MSHA violations data, updated weekly.
Inspection activity
MSHA inspections since 2000
42
inspections on record
884
inspection hours
n/a
citations per 100 inspection hours
This rate is recorded citations divided by MSHA inspection hours, per 100 hours. It reflects inspection effort, not mine size or production.
Rate withheld: 884 inspection hours is too few for a stable rate. A minimum of 1,000 inspection hours is required.
Source: MSHA inspections data, updated weekly.

TROY SAND & GRAVEL has $21K in proposed MSHA penalties and $0 outstanding across 2 contested dockets.

Penalty disposition
Differences between proposed and paid penalties reflect both settlements and conference reductions and amounts still owed. Outstanding is the balance currently owed.
$21K
proposed penalties
$21K
current assessed
$21K
paid to date
$0
outstanding
96 assessments are final orders; 2 contested dockets.
Of $2K in penalties contested before the Commission, $2K was upheld in final decisions.
As of the most recent assessment on 2026-02-25.
Source: MSHA assessed-violations and conference/litigation data, updated weekly.
Violation severity profile
Shares are computed over citations that carry the MSHA gravity and negligence coding; a small share of records are uncoded.
13.5%
significant & substantial
4.2%
high negligence or reckless
13.5%
reasonably likely or greater
46.9%
permanently disabling or fatal if injury occurs
Negligence coding: 0.0% none, 45.8% low, 50.0% moderate, 4.2% high, 0.0% reckless.
Source: MSHA violations gravity and negligence coding, updated weekly.
When citations were contested
Contesting a citation before the Federal Mine Safety and Health Review Commission is a lawful right. These figures state the public outcomes of that process, from MSHA's Contested Violations file.
4 citations taken to the federal commission · 4% of citations on record
  • Stood as issued 4 · 100%
100%
S&S designation survived the contest
Counts a Significant & Substantial citation as surviving when a settlement or judge's decision kept the designation, or the contest was dismissed or defaulted so the citation stands as issued. Vacated and withdrawn citations, and settlements that removed the designation, count against.
of 2 decided S&S contests · industry: 79%
0%
Penalty reduction in decided contests
$2K proposed, $2K after decisions · industry: 39%
Source: MSHA Contested Violations file (public record), updated weekly. A dismissed or defaulted contest leaves the citation standing as issued; a vacated or withdrawn citation is removed from the violation record. Latest contest filed 2022-11-17.
Contested penalties
A reduction or dismissal at the Commission is a lawful outcome of contesting a proposed penalty. Figures are the proposed amount and the amount upheld in the docket's decision.
Largest penalties this mine contested before the Federal Mine Safety and Health Review Commission, with the outcome on record.
Docket Decision Judge Year Proposed / upheld
YORK 2018-0015 Default Lesnick 2018 $1K → $1K
YORK 2023-0017 Default 2023 $758 → $758
Source: FMSHRC civil penalty dockets and decisions (public record), updated weekly.
Health sampling
A sample is a point in time compliance measurement, not an individual exposure history. These figures describe MSHA sampling records and do not establish causation or personal dose.

Metal and nonmetal contaminants (personal samples)
Many samples are screening measurements of substances with no applicable exposure limit; they are counted as samples but excluded from every over-limit figure. Over-limit shares use only limit-tested samples.

Last sampled: 2025-02-19
7%
of limit-tested samples over the exposure limit
27
samples
15
limit-tested
Most sampled contaminants
  • Quartz, respirable, >1% Qtz141 over
  • Respirable dust, <.1mg11
  • Arsenic fumes1
  • Beryllium fumes1
Show the individual readings (39)
Date Contaminant Concentration Limit Conc / limit Occupation
2023-06-15 Quartz, respirable, >1% Qtz 0.51 0.47 1.09 Truck Driver
2025-02-19 Nickel fumes 0 1 0.00 Mechanic
2025-02-19 Beryllium fumes 0 2 0.00 Mechanic
2025-02-19 Arsenic fumes 0 500 0.00 Mechanic
2025-02-19 Zinc oxide fumes 0 5 0.00 Mechanic
2025-02-19 Vanadium fumes 0 50 0.00 Mechanic
2025-02-19 Molybdenum fumes 0 10 0.00 Mechanic
2025-02-19 Manganese fumes 0.07 5 0.01 Mechanic
2025-02-19 Magnesium oxide fumes 0 10 0.00 Mechanic
2025-02-19 Lead fumes 0 150 0.00 Mechanic
2025-02-19 Iron oxide fumes 0.34 10 0.03 Mechanic
2025-02-19 Copper fumes 0 100 0.00 Mechanic
2025-02-19 Cobalt fumes 0 100 0.00 Mechanic
2025-02-19 Chromium, insoluble 0 1 0.00 Mechanic
2025-02-19 Cadmium oxide fumes 0 100 0.00 Mechanic
2023-06-15 Respirable dust, <.1mg 0 Crusher Oper/Worker
2023-06-15 Respirable dust, <.1mg 0 Truck Driver
2021-09-29 Quartz, respirable, >1% Qtz 0.15 Front-end Loader Operator
2021-09-29 Quartz, respirable, >1% Qtz 0.19 0.57 0.33 Crusher Oper/Worker
2015-07-14 Quartz, respirable, >1% Qtz 0.15 0.42 0.36 Crusher Oper/Worker
2015-07-14 Quartz, respirable, >1% Qtz 0.19 0.44 0.43 Crusher Oper/Worker
2015-07-14 Respirable dust, <.1mg 0 Front-end Loader Operator
2015-07-14 Respirable dust, <.1mg 0 Backhoe Operator
2005-12-14 Respirable dust, <.1mg 0 Mechanic
2005-12-14 Respirable dust, <.1mg 0 Front-end Loader Operator
2005-06-14 Quartz, respirable, >1% Qtz 0.25 1.55 0.16 Crusher Oper/Worker
2005-06-14 Respirable dust, <.1mg 0 Front-end Loader Operator
2005-06-14 Quartz, respirable, >1% Qtz 0.23 0.56 0.41 Dry Screen Plant Operator
2005-06-14 Quartz, respirable, >1% Qtz 0.16 0.53 0.30 Crusher Oper/Worker
2005-06-14 Quartz, respirable, >1% Qtz 0.17 0.64 0.27 Crusher Oper/Worker
2004-05-25 Respirable dust, <.1mg 0 Crusher Oper/Worker
2004-05-25 Respirable dust, <.1mg 0 Truck Driver
2004-05-25 Quartz, respirable, >1% Qtz 1.17 2.22 0.53 Crusher Oper/Worker
2004-05-25 Respirable dust, <.1mg 0 Front-end Loader Operator
2003-06-03 Quartz, respirable, >1% Qtz 0.25 0.72 0.35 Crusher Oper/Worker
2003-06-03 Respirable dust, <.1mg 0 Truck Driver
2003-06-03 Quartz, respirable, >1% Qtz 0.21 0.62 0.34 Truck Driver
2003-06-03 Quartz, respirable, >1% Qtz 0.16 0.66 0.24 Front-end Loader Operator
2003-06-03 Quartz, respirable, >1% Qtz 0.26 0.96 0.27 Crusher Oper/Worker
Source: MSHA respirable dust, quartz, and noise sampling records, updated weekly. Metal/nonmetal contaminant figures come from MSHA's Personal Health Samples and Area Samples files (public record), updated weekly.

TROY SAND & GRAVEL recorded 8.51 reportable injury cases per 100 full-time workers in 2025.

Injury rate, 2025
This rate is reportable injury cases per 100 full-time-equivalent workers per year, computed as 200,000 times cases divided by MSHA operator-reported employee-hours. Cases are injuries MSHA graded degree 01 through 07; accident-only events that hurt no one are excluded, and so are contractor injuries, whose hours do not attach to a single mine. Rates begin in 2000, when quarterly employment reporting starts, and are withheld below 20,000 hours in a year.
8.51
total case rate
0.00
days-away rate
0.000
fatality rate
Above average. The US metal and nonmetal mining average was 1.65 and the all-US-mining average was 1.97 cases per 100 workers.
In New York, metal and nonmetal mining averaged 2.08 cases per 100 workers that year.
Under 100,000 employee-hours were reported that year, so a single case moves the rate by two or more. Read the figure as approximate.
Year total case rate days-away fatal
2025 * 8.51 0.00 0.000
2024 * 0.00 0.00 0.000
2023 * 0.00 0.00 0.000
2022 * 0.00 0.00 0.000
2021 * 0.00 0.00 0.000
2020 * 0.00 0.00 0.000
2019 * 0.00 0.00 0.000
2018 * 0.00 0.00 0.000
* Fewer than 100,000 employee-hours that year; the rate is less stable.
Source: injury cases from MSHA accident and injury records; employee-hours from MSHA quarterly employment reports. Rate is cases per 100 full-time-equivalent workers, operator employees only.
Ownership history
  1. Fitzgerald Brothers Construction Company Inc 1950 to 1982
  2. Callanan Industries Inc 1982 to 1985
  3. Callanan Industries Inc 1985 to 2017
  4. Troy Sand & Gravel 2017 to present
Source: MSHA controller and operator history, updated weekly.
Workforce and production
Year Employees
2026 9
2025 9
2024 9
2023 9
2022 10
2021 10
2020 10
2019 10
2018 9
2017 7
2016 7
2015 9
2014 8
2013 9
2012 13
2011 13
2010 11
2009 13
2008 13
2007 17
2006 17
2005 19
2004 17
2003 17
2002 17
2001 16
2000 14
Source: MSHA quarterly employment and production, updated weekly.

TROY SAND & GRAVEL sits in Rensselaer County, New York, where the Census mining category is 0.0% of county employment.

Local economic context
County figures come from the US Census Bureau's American Community Survey, 5-year pooled estimates, so the 2023 vintage covers 2019 through 2023. The Census category is 'mining, quarrying, and oil and gas extraction', which is broader than MSHA jurisdiction and includes oil and gas workers no mine employs. These figures describe the surrounding county, not this mine, and are not a factor in any specific incident.
Rensselaer County, New York · Population 160,341
0.0%
Mining share of county employment
$86,663
Median household income
Source: US Census Bureau, American Community Survey 2023 5-year estimates.
Quarterly safety rates
Citations per million reported employee-hours. Rates begin in 2000, when MSHA's quarterly employment data starts; earlier incidents are counted but cannot be rate-adjusted. Quarters under 100,000 reported hours are greyed: too few hours for a stable rate.
Citations per million employee-hours, as reported to MSHA
Quarter Hours worked Citations S&S Per 1M hrs
2026 Q2 6,971 0 0 0.0
2026 Q1 3,475 2 0 575.5
2025 Q4 6,042 0 0 0.0
2025 Q3 6,815 5 0 733.7
2025 Q2 6,637 0 0 0.0
2025 Q1 4,002 3 1 749.6
2024 Q4 6,170 0 0 0.0
2024 Q3 6,111 0 0 0.0
Show 98 earlier quarters
Quarter Hours worked Citations S&S Per 1M hrs
2024 Q2 6,345 3 1 472.8
2024 Q1 4,002 7 1 1749.1
2023 Q4 5,907 0 0 0.0
2023 Q3 6,464 0 0 0.0
2023 Q2 6,112 7 0 1145.3
2023 Q1 3,465 3 0 865.8
2022 Q4 5,517 0 0 0.0
2022 Q3 6,642 10 1 1505.6
2022 Q2 7,022 0 0 0.0
2022 Q1 4,417 0 0 0.0
2021 Q4 6,809 0 0 0.0
2021 Q3 7,773 0 0 0.0
2021 Q2 6,727 6 1 891.9
2021 Q1 4,325 0 0 0.0
2020 Q4 7,243 0 0 0.0
2020 Q3 7,523 0 0 0.0
2020 Q2 6,778 0 0 0.0
2020 Q1 5,425 0 0 0.0
2019 Q4 6,752 4 0 592.4
2019 Q3 7,482 0 0 0.0
2019 Q2 6,678 3 0 449.2
2019 Q1 3,861 0 0 0.0
2018 Q4 6,924 0 0 0.0
2018 Q3 6,730 0 0 0.0
2018 Q2 6,830 0 0 0.0
2018 Q1 3,158 0 0 0.0
2017 Q4 6,586 4 0 607.3
2017 Q3 6,748 4 3 592.8
2017 Q2 5,034 0 0 0.0
2017 Q1 2,331 0 0 0.0
2016 Q4 6,152 3 0 487.6
2016 Q3 6,804 1 0 147.0
2016 Q2 4,995 0 0 0.0
2016 Q1 2,885 0 0 0.0
2015 Q4 6,350 0 0 0.0
2015 Q3 7,820 6 2 767.3
2015 Q2 7,250 0 0 0.0
2015 Q1 2,246 0 0 0.0
2014 Q4 5,390 0 0 0.0
2014 Q3 6,752 5 1 740.5
2014 Q2 5,886 0 0 0.0
2014 Q1 1,683 0 0 0.0
2013 Q4 5,364 0 0 0.0
2013 Q3 6,485 0 0 0.0
2013 Q2 6,012 1 0 166.3
2013 Q1 2,967 0 0 0.0
2012 Q4 4,067 2 0 491.8
2012 Q3 10,234 4 0 390.9
2012 Q2 9,532 0 0 0.0
2012 Q1 2,488 0 0 0.0
2011 Q4 7,559 0 0 0.0
2011 Q3 12,153 1 0 82.3
2011 Q2 7,719 0 0 0.0
2011 Q1 2,263 0 0 0.0
2010 Q4 5,855 0 0 0.0
2010 Q3 9,394 3 0 319.4
2010 Q2 5,522 0 0 0.0
2010 Q1 2,109 0 0 0.0
2009 Q4 4,420 0 0 0.0
2009 Q3 9,755 0 0 0.0
2009 Q2 9,734 0 0 0.0
2009 Q1 2,647 0 0 0.0
2008 Q4 7,353 0 0 0.0
2008 Q3 4,410 0 0 0.0
2008 Q2 8,906 0 0 0.0
2008 Q1 2,969 0 0 0.0
2007 Q4 5,499 0 0 0.0
2007 Q3 12,716 0 0 0.0
2007 Q2 11,193 0 0 0.0
2007 Q1 3,106 0 0 0.0
2006 Q4 6,063 0 0 0.0
2006 Q3 12,684 0 0 0.0
2006 Q2 11,446 0 0 0.0
2006 Q1 2,802 0 0 0.0
2005 Q4 6,454 2 0 309.9
2005 Q3 13,483 0 0 0.0
2005 Q2 12,362 2 0 161.8
2005 Q1 3,489 0 0 0.0
2004 Q4 8,923 0 0 0.0
2004 Q3 13,747 0 0 0.0
2004 Q2 12,204 1 0 81.9
2004 Q1 1,415 0 0 0.0
2003 Q4 5,869 0 0 0.0
2003 Q3 12,652 0 0 0.0
2003 Q2 11,340 2 1 176.4
2003 Q1 2,917 0 0 0.0
2002 Q4 6,147 0 0 0.0
2002 Q3 13,380 0 0 0.0
2002 Q2 12,260 0 0 0.0
2002 Q1 3,568 0 0 0.0
2001 Q4 8,154 0 0 0.0
2001 Q3 12,730 0 0 0.0
2001 Q2 11,647 0 0 0.0
2001 Q1 3,151 0 0 0.0
2000 Q4 3,184 0 0 0.0
2000 Q3 11,438 0 0 0.0
2000 Q2 11,951 0 0 0.0
2000 Q1 2,380 0 0 0.0
No fatalities recorded at this mine.

Reportable incidents

18 on file

2025 · 1 incident

December 12, 2025 NY · Metal/Non-Metal maintenance man, mechanic, repair/serviceman, boilermaker, fueler, tire tech, field service tech HANDLING OF MATERIALS
Troy Sand & Gravel · Struck by falling object

Employee was welding new bars to rebuilt grizzly bars when clamp slipped off piece to weld to bars and fell on finger resulting in stitches to left index finger. Welding gloves were worn at the time.

2017 · 1 incident

April 7, 2017 NY · Metal/Non-Metal crane operator, mobile equipment operator (meo), dragline operator, dropball operator, rigger MACHINERY
Troy Sand & Gravel · Struck by... (Not Elsewhere Classified)

While setting up our crane (we were hired as a contractor for crane service) an employee of our own, got hand in the way of swivel block of crane while assembling the crane. Broke middle and right ring finger on left hand.

2013 · 1 incident

August 22, 2013 NY · Metal/Non-Metal warehouseman, bagger, palletizer/stacker, store keeper, packager, fabricator, cleaning plant operator MACHINERY
Callanan Industries Inc · Struck by... (Not Elsewhere Classified)

Employee was changing the cutting edge on 952 Kawasaki loader with an air wrench and socket. Employee checked the bottom of a bolt with his hand to see if it was spinning. The bolt was spinning and had a sharp edge which cut through his glove and lacerated his right index finger requiring seven stitches.

2012 · 1 incident

September 22, 2012 NY · Metal/Non-Metal FIRE
Callanan Industries Inc · Accident type, without injuries

The crew at the mine were performing some crusher repair maintenance, and were required to conduct some cutting and welding. There must have been some smoldering slag that was not noticed by the crew and the belt on 1C conveyor caught fire. The fire was put out by the local fire department and the damage was approximately $7000.00 and one lost week of production.

2007 · 1 incident

May 14, 2007 NY · Metal/Non-Metal maintenance man, mechanic, repair/serviceman, boilermaker, fueler, tire tech, field service tech SLIP OR FALL OF PERSON
Callanan Industries Inc · Fall from ladders

While stepping off the 3' ladder employee was using, ladder kicked out causing him to fall, injuring right ankle. Employee is currently on light duty program, no lost time, physicial therapy.

2002 · 1 incident

September 21, 2002 NY · Metal/Non-Metal warehouseman, bagger, palletizer/stacker, store keeper, packager, fabricator, cleaning plant operator HANDLING OF MATERIALS
Callanan Industries Inc · Struck by flying object

WHILE REPAIRING CONE CRUSHER, FB ENTERED L EYE. FLEW INTO EYE AROUND SAFETY GLASSES. WINDY CONDITIONS.

2001 · 1 incident

December 3, 2001 NY · Metal/Non-Metal weighman, scale person OTHER
Callanan Industries Inc · (Not Elsewhere Classified)

WHILE DRIVING TO WORK HE FELT SUDDEN SHARP PAIN IN CHEST AND SHORTNESS OF BREATH. IMMEDIATELY UPON ARRIVING AT WORK HE CALLED HIS WIFE FROM THE SCALEHOUSE, WHO IN TURN CALLED AN AMBULENCE. HE WAS TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL.

1998 · 2 incidents

May 5, 1998 NY · Metal/Non-Metal warehouseman, bagger, palletizer/stacker, store keeper, packager, fabricator, cleaning plant operator HANDTOOLS (NONPOWERED)
Callanan Industries Inc · Struck by falling object

WAS JACKING FLYWHEEL WHEN A PIECE OF ANGLE IRON BEHIND HIM FELL STRICKING HIM IN HIS BACK (300 LBS) 4X4 ANGLE WITH 3/8 PLATE WELDING TO FLYWHEELCAUSED ANGLE TO SHIFT & FALL. METAL FATIGUE AND DIRT BUILD UP DIDN'T SEE BROKEN BITT (HAMMERING ON ANGLE

March 25, 1998 NY · Metal/Non-Metal maintenance man, mechanic, repair/serviceman, boilermaker, fueler, tire tech, field service tech HANDLING OF MATERIALS
Callanan Industries Inc · Struck by falling object

NORTH EAST WELDING WAS DELIVERING OXYGEN AND ACETYLENE BOTTLES ON A TRUCK WITH ONLY A LIFT GATE WITH NO CHAINS TO HOLD BOTTLES IN PLACE. THE FULL BOTTLES TIPPED & FELL INTO THE EMPTY BOTTLE WH ICH WERE IN FRONT OF GATE ON FLOOR. THIS CAUSED BOTTLES TO STRIK EMPLOYEE WHO WAS WORKING UNDER A EUCLID TRUCK IN THE FIRST BAY OF THE GARAGE.

1997 · 2 incidents

September 27, 1997 NY · Metal/Non-Metal haul/off road/coal/ore/pit/quarry/rock/rubber tire truck driver, transportation truck driver HANDLING OF MATERIALS
Callanan Industries Inc · Over-exertion in pulling or pushing objects

EMPLOYEE WAS CRANKING TARP COVER FOR HAUL TRUCK. THE TARP GOT STUCK ON THE TRUCK BED AND HE HAD TO PUSH IT MORE.

May 7, 1997 NY · Metal/Non-Metal quality control technician, laboratory technician, laboratory assistant OTHER
Callanan Industries Inc · Struck by... (Not Elsewhere Classified)

QA TECHNICIAN COLLECTING A STONE SAMPLE FROM STOCKPILE. VERY WINDY DAY. WEARING SAFETY GLASSES--NOTED IRRITATION IN RT. EYE. FLUSHED WITH EYEWASH SOLUTION.

1995 · 1 incident

November 14, 1995 NY · Metal/Non-Metal coal/ore shovel operator, shoveler, power shoveler MACHINERY
Callanan Industries Inc · Caught in, under or between (Not Elsewhere Classified)

EE WAS CUTTING BOLT IN JAW DIE, DIE SLID OFF LIPOF CRUSHER, PINNING EE. DIE WAS HELD BY CRANE, HOWEVER, THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH TENSION ON CABLE. EE INJURED HIS L LEG & R LEG, TO A SMALLER DEGREE

1994 · 1 incident

July 9, 1994 NY · Metal/Non-Metal prep plant foreman, supervisor, mill plant supervisor, kiln supervisor SLIP OR FALL OF PERSON
Callanan Industries Inc · Over-exertion (Not Elsewhere Classified)

EMPLOYEE WAS ALLEGEDLY WALKING DOWN STAIRS & SOMEHOW TWISTED RT KNEE

1991 · 1 incident

October 2, 1991 NY · Metal/Non-Metal bulldozer operator, universal operator, heavy equipment operator, operating engineer SLIP OR FALL OF PERSON
Callanan Industries Inc · Over-exertion (Not Elsewhere Classified)

EE ALLEGES THAT HE SLIPPED WHILE CLIMBING UP ONTO FULL DOZER, RESULTING IN A DISLOCATED LEFT SHOULDER.

1990 · 1 incident

June 1, 1990 NY · Metal/Non-Metal warehouseman, bagger, palletizer/stacker, store keeper, packager, fabricator, cleaning plant operator HANDTOOLS (NONPOWERED)
Callanan Industries Inc · Fall to the walkway or working surface

INJURED WAS TURNING A CRUSHER BOLT WITH A WRENCH. WRENCH SLIPPED OFF HEAD OF BOLT CAUSING EMPLOYEE TO FALL, THEREBY TWISTING HIS KNEE.

1989 · 1 incident

April 10, 1989 NY · Metal/Non-Metal haul/off road/coal/ore/pit/quarry/rock/rubber tire truck driver, transportation truck driver POWERED HAULAGE
Callanan Industries Inc · Caught in, under or between a moving and a stationary object

PULLING EMERG BRAKE BACK TO HOLD TRUCK FROM MOVING.FINGER GOT CAUGHT UNDER EMERG BRAKE LEVER.

1988 · 2 incidents

October 8, 1988 NY · Metal/Non-Metal front-end loader, scraper-loader operator, pan operator, payloader, scraper rig operator FIRE
Callanan Industries Inc · Contact with hot objects or substances

RUNNING MOTOR OF MACHINE TO HEAT FLUID SO AS TO DRAIN SAME O RING ON POWER STEERING PUMP BLEW SPEWING OIL ON HOT MANIFOLD FIRE ENSUED OPERATOR JUMPED OUT OF MACHINE WITH EXTINGUISHER AND IN PU TTING OUT FLAME HEAT FROM FIRE BURNED FACE

April 6, 1988 NY · Metal/Non-Metal scoop car/scooptram operator, load/haul/dump (lhd) operator, teletram operator HANDLING OF MATERIALS
Callanan Industries Inc · Caught in, under or between (Not Elsewhere Classified)

TAKING OUT DEFECTIVE STARTER OUT OF SCOOP. AS IT LOWERED WITH VERY LITTLE ROOM TO SPARE BETWEEN BLOCK & FRAME STARTER CAUGHT FINGER AGAINST FRAME.